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Post by hk91666 on Feb 18, 2011 0:41:19 GMT -5
Has anyone experimented with a .30 cal sabot and a .223 bullet in the TOK 7.62x25mm case? A friend of mine was doing it in a CZ-52 I may try in my AR when it gets here. Any thoughts?
With the CZ-52 bullet size and length was a issue due to magazine size.
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Post by HMC710 on Feb 19, 2011 10:13:02 GMT -5
Sounds like fun!
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Post by hk91666 on Feb 19, 2011 10:28:33 GMT -5
I will let you know after I see how long the pps 43 mags are or maybe it may work in a std ar mag if too long. I am looking for velocity mostly and accuracy of course.
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Post by HMC710 on Feb 21, 2011 13:08:30 GMT -5
What aer the 22 Reeds Express loaded to?
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Post by HMC710 on Feb 25, 2011 16:50:00 GMT -5
Got a call from a customer in AK and he said he pulled some surplus rounds and stuck some 30 cal sabots w/55gr .223 bullets. Said it sounds like a 22 and hits the black at 200 yards all day long. Has to load them kind of deep and has not tried a stack of them in a mag yet, but action cycles on his blow back system. (Blow back adapter works great too )
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Post by hk91666 on Mar 19, 2011 10:19:59 GMT -5
Found out this cartridge is called 223 timbs. That is for a 40 grain bullet in a sabot . I haven't determined if using a 70 or 80 gr would be a different name.
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Post by HMC710 on Mar 21, 2011 6:08:32 GMT -5
Reeds Ammo www.reedsammo.com/-.html7.62x25 necked down with the shoulder blown fwd. Says 60 gr bullets are too long for the mag.
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Post by hk91666 on Mar 21, 2011 7:36:37 GMT -5
the timbs as well says 40 gr is limit for magazine only to be shot in a cz-52 . I was thinking about trying in a std AR mag. With 80gr IF stable is a little shorter than std 5.56x45. just a thought.
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Post by HMC710 on Mar 21, 2011 17:46:11 GMT -5
Just remember, they make different twist barrels! The BRD creed........Get Both! ;D
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Post by hk91666 on Mar 21, 2011 21:30:37 GMT -5
Tim That is why we like you always the salesman..... LOL Before I get to test I will send back for the magazine issues. Then party down and work up a round Is this sexy or what? My first dummy setup with a tok case and sabot with 80 grain Hornady .223 bullet.
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Post by HMC710 on Mar 22, 2011 5:15:21 GMT -5
Problem with BRD is that I'm my own best customer ;D ;D Got some of those sabots coming, need to try that! (See what I mean?)
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Post by hk91666 on Mar 22, 2011 7:37:49 GMT -5
I have 55, 62,70, & 80 grain bullets will let you know which works with the 1:8 barrel and if I need another......hope to have packed and mailed next week will email you.
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Post by hk91666 on Mar 23, 2011 7:44:20 GMT -5
The 80 grain feeds with a std AR 5.56 magazine , but the sabot/bullet has to be set in deeper (near the slots ) as it got stuck on the rifling and would not eject or we would have to throat the chamber. Setting deeper is a better idea at least for now.
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Post by casteal on Mar 30, 2011 10:17:35 GMT -5
Got my TOK six months ago, was offered Sabots and small bullets. Didn't take them because I couldn't find any reloading data. Anyone have data for these small sabot-ed bullets?
Jim
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Post by HMC710 on Apr 3, 2011 8:25:45 GMT -5
I think its going to come down to seating depth. Quickload is showing 2200 fps with 10 gr of AA#7 or 8.5 gr of #5, w/55gr sabot at 1.690" oal. Going to need a fast powder. If they have to be seated to std OAL there doesn't show any improvement in vel.
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