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Post by 22boomer on Nov 26, 2012 19:27:12 GMT -5
No worries, I'll take it from there 1:10 seems a bit slow for the 30gr bullets, but you can't argue with success can you I was a little surprised when you said 1:10 twist was a bit slow. A 1:12 twist might have been better choice for the .224 diameter bullets since I was only going to use bullets up to 50gr since anything longer would not fit in the mags I use. I did try some 70gr VLD bullets I think from Berger and they seemed to shoot ok although I can't believe the bullets were really stabilized -- I think I was just lucky with them -- they're almost an inch long and I had to use a single shot follower in an AR magazine.
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Post by HMC710 on Dec 15, 2012 12:38:55 GMT -5
Just going with Mr. Reed's comments. Will see what blanks I have available and maybe try a couple different ones.
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Post by 22boomer on Dec 15, 2012 18:12:21 GMT -5
Just going with Mr. Reed's comments. Will see what blanks I have available and maybe try a couple different ones. Well, I can't argue with the guy that designed and developed the 22 Reed Express. Sure would be nice to see what you can do with it. I will say that I really like the 22RE and forming the brass from 7.62 Tok brass is a bit easier than making it from .223 brass. My only problem is that when the cases are ejected they tend to vanish in any grass that's around and I hate those funky brass catchers. If you get a chance try using some Sellier&Bellott 7.62 brass -- really nice to form and lasts a long time -- plus you get to shoot it first in your 7.62 Tok carbine. The combination of the two -- 22RE and 7.62 Tok -- make for some fun shooting. Edit to add: The one thing I wished I had taken the time to get working was making the PPS-43 mags work for me with the 22 Reed Express rounds. I sure hope you have some luck with it if you are going in the 22RE direction.
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Post by HMC710 on Dec 19, 2012 21:40:37 GMT -5
Hey 22! finally got wireless so don't have to try and type through the dang phone.... Got some blanks coming and will get them prepped for when the reamer and dies get here. Lots going on so trying to get it all fit in... Sure plan on running the Pps-43 mags. We'll see what happens
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Post by 22boomer on Dec 20, 2012 6:40:32 GMT -5
Hey 22! finally got wireless so don't have to try and type through the dang phone.... Got some blanks coming and will get them prepped for when the reamer and dies get here. Lots going on so trying to get it all fit in... Sure plan on running the Pps-43 mags. We'll see what happens I really do hope you can figure out the PPS-43 mags and the 22 Reed Express. The PPS mags held the 22RE rounds really nice I could not get them to feed well from that magazine -- fed really nice from the CZ-24 mag but they require a bit of work to fit in the AR and can also be hard to find.at times.
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Post by HMC710 on Dec 30, 2012 19:33:20 GMT -5
Yes, sure hope to get to work on this soon. I haven't bothered Ron in a while so will wait til his parts ship. If he's like everyone else right now he's probably Wide Open making parts. Had a guy send me some other mags shaped just like the CZ mags, M31 or M33, don't remember, but same problem, too wide at the back. I don't see any reason we can't use the PPs mags.
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Post by HMC710 on Feb 20, 2013 20:12:17 GMT -5
Sent note to Ron for an update on order......
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Post by HMC710 on Feb 24, 2013 11:09:34 GMT -5
Happy Sunday! We made it through the "blizzard", three days of warnings for 2" of snow Back home we were getting 6" a day, I guess its all relative. Got confirmation back from Ron Reed that the reamer and dies have shipped Now to get the prep work done so we can hit the ground running. Will get some blanks ordered in a couple different twist rates, .22 cal bullets from 30 - 69gr and get the Quick Load / Quick Design programs working on various OAL calcs to see where these rounds will work with various mags. One of our goals is to find one batch that will work in a 1.28" envelope. Of course, being on the road, time and distance always are an issue Take care.
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Post by 22boomer on Feb 24, 2013 16:06:36 GMT -5
Tim, I imagine this is not the weight bullet you going to try but I had super luck with the 30gr Barnes Varmint Grenade. I could maybe go a bit faster but I got 3200fps using Lil' Gun (16" barrel) and was thinking about trying Alliant 300mp but never got the chance. The 3200fps was using Starline 30 Mauser brass which comes to the same length that Sellier&Bellott 7.62X25 Tok brass would come to -- the Starline brass always seems to be a bit on the short side so I use their 30 Mauser a lot.
Where you thinking more about doing a 1911 type setup -- that would be a cool pistol to shoot.
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Post by HMC710 on Feb 26, 2013 0:02:20 GMT -5
Hey 22 Yes, starting with the 30gr bullets available should give minimum recoil so that's why I'm looking for a few different twist rates. Had a 1:12 .223 that wouldn't hit a barn at 25 yds with 69gr bullets so we'll do some layout work and see how it goes. Yes the 1.28" oal would be super fun in a 1911...... already working on the barrels ;D
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Post by 22boomer on Feb 26, 2013 9:40:25 GMT -5
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Post by HMC710 on Feb 26, 2013 22:33:14 GMT -5
Yep the link worked, thanks. Well, this whole thing started because of the TCM and all of a sudden I couldn't even find a pistol in the caliber so we contacted Ron and went the 22 Reeds Express route. IF we can find dies and reamers, might do the TCM (which is also the Micro Mag from what I have been able to gather)
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Post by 22boomer on Mar 1, 2013 11:39:06 GMT -5
Not sure if this is any value but I had made (some time back) some 22 Reed Express cartridge cases using .223 brass. It was a real pain but it worked fine. The brass did puff a bit since the original 22RE cartridge case is a bit larger but it still worked -- I'm not sure if it was worth all the trouble. I did find that it looked like I needed to change the bolt back to a .223 bolt due to the fact that using the 7.62X25 sized bolt always seemed to put the firing pin dent a bit off center when I used the reformed .223 brass.
Don't know if this is of any value either but the magazine used for the 22 TCM is also available on that same ammo site. Since the magazine is double stack/single feed maybe a carbine could be made but in a blowback configuration. I know there are a lot of good old Colt 9mm carbines out there -- I've got one. I also have a 7.62X25 tok barrel for it and if I could have gotten the PPS-43 mags to work for it I would have had a 22 Reed Express barrel made also. Maybe the 22 TCM might work in the PPS-43 mag. I ordered some of the 22 Micro Mag brass just to have something to play with.
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Post by HMC710 on Mar 1, 2013 20:55:19 GMT -5
Yes, would be nice if there was an easy way to get 223 brass down to size. Looked at short chambering the 221 Fireball to see what would happen. Numbers through quick load are impressive for the 22RE at 35,000 psi, even more so at 55,000 psi. Plus the fact that you wouldn't have to modify the bolt. If you look at the 22RE which is very similar to the 22 TCM, its a delayed blow back round in the 1911. The Tok is a delayed blowback in the M57 / TT33. So because the tok can be done in BB AR's we should be able to do the 22RE as a nice "convertable" 9mm upper. I was also going to order some brass like you said to play with.
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Post by HMC710 on Mar 3, 2013 10:27:09 GMT -5
Picked up some Hornady 35gr VMax and 40gr Nosler Varmint bullets yesterday. Saw plenty of 223 mags for sale but no small rifle primers or mid weight .22 bullets. Can't wait to get to the shop.
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